When you used to go out in service (or if you still do) what was the coffee time? That's the time that you usually look at your watch and say "Oh hey let's go for coffee then do a few more!"...or worse...did you not take one in morning service?
Where I come from at 11am every coffee shop fears waves of Jehovah's witnesses coming in. It got so bad at a few shops they had to start being rude to them to get them to leave.
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Coffee time?
by Ex Nihilo inwhen you used to go out in service (or if you still do) what was the coffee time?
that's the time that you usually look at your watch and say "oh hey let's go for coffee then do a few more!
"...or worse...did you not take one in morning service?
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Experiences of bethelites from around the world
by ldrnomo init would be nice to hear from former bethelites from around the world.
there stories while they were at bethel good or bad..
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^ That made me smile ear to ear.
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blood card
by 4digitcode ini went through my 10 year stay in the truth not knowing a whole lot about any of the teachings i realize.
i knew of them, knew the rules cause i read them all the time in the km,wt,awake....but i couldn't explain most of my beliefs with the bible.
i entered the faith at 13 years old, on my own and guess what at 13 years old with no parents pressuring me i really didn't like studying.
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I don't think they should have allowed you to feel pressured over such an issue. I can see if you had asked agbout it, but not randomly like that.
Personally I won't take blood, not because of a witness family, but because my family has several nurses that are non witnesses, and have had surgery insisting on no blood.
I honestly can't say what I would do if I was dying... I think getting blood from an unknown source is kind of gross, and although I don't mind samples being drawn, I ahve severe phobias of things going into me through needles.
I have my card still to hide behind if I am temporarily out so they can ask me, but when admitted into hospital, I don't say anything until it comes up. -
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are you more 'active' now than when you were in?
by 4digitcode inmetapsy brought up a good point in one of his/her replies to a post earlier.
(sorry metapsy,am still new here) .
i have done more studying on the witnesses now that i'm out than i ever did while i was in!!!
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I used to be the nerd who studied every book I could for the weekly meeting despite working 8 hours a day and 2 hours of service almost every day.
I don't touch a darn thing now. I have all the books and only reference it when my boyfriend/netbuddies asks me the odd question, and I need better words than I can normally supply. -
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who's fault is it?
by bigdreaux inwhen it comes to the society, are they to blame for the control they use upon the members, or is it the peoples fault?
should we blame the society for tricking people?
or is it the people that let themselves be tricked?
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I blame myself. I went along with it because it made me happy at the time, even though I didn't think god was there. I got baptized for a number of reasons, not devotion related.
I think the society in a way is a bunch of regular JW's with more power, they themselves are scared of breaking rules, so they make more, enforce them harder and whatnot.
I met several higher ups. They are regular guys that make mistakes and a lot have been to jail, suffered hardship, and had many trials, not saying they are incapable of crimes against fellow humans, but that they too are human.
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Blood Transfusions...
by zeroday ini found this on another board.... i asked a physican at the nurse's station to talk one night.
since there was no one around (night shift), we had time to talk.
i will answer your question with an example.
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Some surgery is done where the blood is sucked out and pumped back in without a break in the link. Many people feel this is acceptable and consider it an alternative to transfusion.
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YOU SEEN THESE JW SINGLES DATING SITES??
by Cordelia ini only seen one it was so funny.
is there any in the uk.
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The society is hard against them.
I have resisted temptation to call up non JW friends and get them to figure out the KM songs so that I can join and cause trouble.
It would probably be a bad idea though.
They could have come up with a better security system. I hope for the members sakes that they do not come under harm because of it, at the same time, flat rational me says, that they get what they deserve.
I remember one DO saying that no self respecting christian would go on those sites, I really hoped nobody in that audience was a member, when I looked on the site though, people in our district were indeed there. -
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Letters to old friends
by Billzfan23 infor those of you who know my story, i was an elder/cong book study overseer/school overseer just about 9 1/2 months ago now.
when the rest of you faded and left (as i have since then) - did any of you write letters to your old friends in the hall explaining your decision and exposting the borg as the fraud that it is?
if so, what was your response, if any?.
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I didn't fade, I just severed, while still living at home. Out of respect and to make the adjustment easier for family, I went to one day of the convention.
<br><br>My more free spirited associates, who are still deeply in the truth and pioneers, but used to be DF'ed kids knew where I was going and all Hugged me very tight (even the boys which some may consider inappropriate in public) they knew they wouldn't see me for a very long time if ever.
<br><br>My friend who almost died in the hospital and who I took care of when I was very sick myself, didn't even ******* look at me, but I don't blame her since she gets ticked off if someone is doing anything off of what the rules are.
<br><br>I didn't want to unconvert anyone or anything. In my philosophy, I let people figure stuff out for themselves unless they say they are broken and need help. When my parents wanted to know why I was leaving, I said I didn't want to debate it because I didn't want to be an unconverter.
<br><br>I'm pretty happy with the way it went. I don't often look back, but it still hasn't set in with many of them that I actually left because it happened so fast. -
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Meet with elders because "I have left Jehovah"
by Rayvin inmy husband got a call on his cell phone.
an elder from the local kh told him he would like to get with both of us.
he said he was just getting in touch with the local people in his cong.
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If you don't want to talk to them, simply don't call back.
I like what oompa said on the first page though. I chuckled a bit. Thinks along the lines I do.
If you don't admit to doing wrong, they can't kick you out....If they do kick you out, for just not going to meetings then that would be unfair and that should be dealt with on a higher level.
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I have seen prayers read at district convention!
by oompa inyes, i like to gaze around during prayers, especially big ones.
twice now i have seen the chairman or concluding speaker finish the song, approach the speaker stand, say "let's approach god in prayer," and at the last second pull out a index card size of paper with writing on it.
he kind of cups his hand over as he lays in on top of the song book.
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When my Dad gave a prayer at the convention, at the last one I was at (last year..I think) he didn't have a card. He didn't know what he would say until he got up there and did a great job of winging it. I've seen known anxious brothers turn beet red and sweat, almost cry.
When my Dad was chairman once, everyone was set up so that if the brother doing the talk fell ill, or chickened out, someone else would have the talk outline to take over.
It sounded very odd.